Legislature(1997 - 1998)

05/05/1998 01:10 PM House JUD

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CSSB 319(RLS) - ARBITRATION                                                    
                                                                               
Number 2328                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN announced the committee would hear CSSB 319(RLS) "An            
Act relating to arbitration; amending Rules 57(a) and 77(g), Alaska            
Rules of Civil Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                
                                                                               
JERRY BURNETT, Legislative Assistant to Randy Phillips, Alaska                 
State Legislature, stated that SB 319 requires that in a contract              
subject to arbitration language explaining the implications of                 
arbitration is typed in capitol letters within in the arbitration              
agreement or on a separate document.  This language will state                 
clearly that a party to arbitration may be limiting or waiving                 
rights to other remedies, including appeal of an arbitrator's                  
decision to a court of law.  He stated that the CSSB 319 (RLS)                 
clarifies provisions that exclude labor management agreements                  
unless the parties agree that they want to include an arbitration              
clause.  It also adds that these provisions do not apply to                    
personal injury claims, very small claims where the total                      
consideration, not the amount to be arbitrated, is less than the               
small claims amount and insurance claims or annuity contracts.                 
                                                                               
Number 2370                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if he would explain why the Senator Phillips              
feels it is necessary to have it in large type.                                
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that the number of contracts commonly in use,               
including the Anchorage multiple listing service contract for the              
(indisc.) residents in Alaska, contain a provision that call for               
arbitration of disputes that arise under the contract.  He stated              
that consumers who have signed these contracts, not knowing what               
their rights are and then have found themselves in a arbitration               
situations.  He stated that there are no real rules prescribing who            
can be an arbitrator and if they have to follow Alaska law.  He                
stated that people have unknowingly signed the contract and then               
wound up in an adverse situation with large attorney fees and no               
appeal to the courts.  He stated that this law is modeled after a              
Montana Statute.  Senator Phillips felt that it was necessary that             
consumers know what arbitration is and what rights they are giving             
up.                                                                            
                                                                               
Number 2450                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER asked what right are we giving up under                  
arbitration.                                                                   
                                                                               
Number 2457                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied that they give up the right to appeal by                   
signing a contract with an arbitration clause.  Also they may be               
giving up the right to have a conflict resolved in a court of law.             
                                                                               
TAPE 98-84, SIDE B                                                             
Number 0001                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that it is listed in the bill page 2, line 31               
through page 3, line 22. He stated that this is a list of the                  
rights one may be giving up.  He stated that the bill requires that            
the notice be read, it does not require that a person sign an                  
arbitration agreement or that they waive their right to                        
arbitration.                                                                   
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if there are very many people who go to                   
arbitration without a lawyer.                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0060                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that he imagined that there are but he could not            
speak to that.                                                                 
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN stated that the would assume that if one hired a                
lawyer they would be aware of all these issues and that this bill              
would be to protect the public who might what to do this without an            
attorney.                                                                      
                                                                               
Number 0082                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that it is more to protect the public when they             
sign the original contract for the purchase of a home or the                   
purchase of something else when it contains an arbitration clause,             
giving away their right to go to court.                                        
                                                                               
Number 0097                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ asked if the American Arbitration                     
Association provided their opinion on this bill.                               
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied not to his knowledge, although he believes they            
have heard of it.                                                              
                                                                               
Number 0112                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER referred to page 2, line 8, and stated that              
it may not be the intent but it reads that "in order for an                    
agreement to provide for arbitration, the agreement must contain a             
notice that states that the party has the option to compel                     
arbitration to bind the other party to the arbitration decision and            
the arbitration limits the right and remedies otherwise under the              
law."  He stated referred to the word "must" and stated it could be            
interrupted that the party who wishes to arbitrate must do it the              
way that it is stated.                                                         
                                                                               
Number 0153                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied that he could not speak to that and                        
unfortunately Bill McNall is not present, as he is the attorney                
that worked on it.  He stated that the bill was reviewed by the                
and assistant Alaska attorney general and believes that it is an               
accurate statement.                                                            
                                                                               
Number 0168                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ stated that it may be accurate but there              
is a huge internal inconsistency.  He referred to lines 12-14, page            
2 "parties to an arbitration agreement do not waive their rights to            
obtain a judicial determination."  He stated and then the bill                 
states that you will or may be limiting a dispute resolved in a                
court of law ....                                                              
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that if you read line 26, page 2 it states that             
you do not waive your right to obtain a judicial determination of              
whether a particular dispute is arbitrable.  He stated that this is            
consistent with line 12-14.                                                    
                                                                               
Number 0200                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated that it is not that one can not get to             
a judicial solution.                                                           
                                                                               
Number 0209                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN said, "Would this be a chilling affect of ever                  
having this in an agreement."                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0239                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked how many hearings has this bill had.             
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied it has been heard in the Senate Judiciary,                 
Labor and Commerce and Rules.                                                  
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if there are any witness from the                
real estate industry.                                                          
                                                                               
Number 0257                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied that he discussed it with members of the                   
industry and none of them had any opposition to it.  They have                 
neither testified against it or for it.                                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if there was a reason for the                    
immediate effective date.                                                      
                                                                               
Number 0276                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that it was suggested by Bill McNall.                       
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if he had thought of the                         
ramifications of an immediate effective date.                                  
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied that it has not come up in any of the hearings.            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG stated that there would be a high cost to              
the state by having an immediate effective date.                               
                                                                               
Number 0301                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that the sponsor would agree that having an                 
immediate effective date on that basis is not a good idea.                     
                                                                               
Number 0313                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if the arbitration provisions allow              
for judicial appeal if there is a lack of satisfaction at                      
arbitration.                                                                   
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied that they do not.                                          
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if that was in the definition of                 
arbitration or could one appeal from an arbitrators ruling if one              
agreed to it prior to the arbitration.                                         
                                                                               
Number 0341                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that he believed one could if it was mutually               
agreed to.  However the Anchorage MLS agreement does not allow for             
it.                                                                            
                                                                               
Number 0348                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if Mr. Burnett was aware that this               
bill is labeled as a "make work for attorney's bill."                          
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied that he has heard that concern expressed,                  
however he stated that is not the sponsors intent.                             
                                                                               
Number 0372                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked how many witnesses in the various                
branches of the law testified for or against this bill.                        
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT replied that two attorneys have testified on the bill.             
                                                                               
Number 0395                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER stated that he would like to read his changes            
that would make more sense in the bill.  He stated that on line 10,            
page 2, delete "has" and insert "may have" after the word "party."             
After the word "arbitration" delete "and" and insert "or".  He                 
stated on line 11, insert "the" before "arbitration," insert "may"             
before the word "limits" and change that to "limit".  He stated                
that on line 12, after the word "state," delete "that" and insert              
"whether".  On line 13 delete "do not" after the word "agreement."             
                                                                               
                                                                               
Number 0478                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. BURNETT stated that the sponsor's sole concern is to make sure             
that a person entering into an agreement, that contains an                     
arbitration clause, has some type of notice that lets them know                
that they are waiving their constitutional rights to go to court.              
                                                                               
Number 0492                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN stated that with that in mind he would subscribe to             
the way Representative Porter has modified it as it reads easier.              
He asked if he is offering it as an amendment.                                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER made a motion to adopt Amendment 1.                      
                                                                               
Number 0549                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if there was an objection.  Hearing none,                 
Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                       
                                                                               
Number 0549                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG stated that he is nervous about the bill he            
does not think that it has had a proper hearing.  He stated that               
the general public has not been noticed and the real estate                    
industry is barely aware of its existence, if at all.  He stated               
that to put this into a contract, particularly a real estate                   
contract there should be some feedback from those people.                      
                                                                               
Number 0613                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES asked if it would be proper to take this bill             
up the following day.                                                          
                                                                               
Number 0624                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ stated that perhaps they could hear from              
the alternate dispute section of the bar tomorrow.                             
                                                                               
Number 0639                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN GREEN stated that the committee will hold off on any                  
further action on the bill and hold the bill over.                             
                                                                               

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